What do you want to be when you grow up? It’s a question we’ve all answered when we were young, but how many of us really knew what all of the options were back then? The department of labor claims there are about 950 jobs that exist, some of them far beyond the imagination of a 5-year-old. My guest today, Dr. Kevin Fleming, is on a mission to broaden the imagination of people of all ages when it comes to career options so they can live lives that are both financially and emotionally fulfilling. Kevin is a national speaker, best-selling author, and CEO of Catapult, a company that offers dynamic and impactful professional development masterclasses for educational institutions. In our conversation we touch on what it means to be underemployed vs. unemployed, and why a four-year college plan is not always the right educational choice for everyone. We also discuss program marketing and Kevin’s children’s book There’s a Hat for That!: Exploring Careers That Fit You Best, which encourages exploration toward activities that align with a child’s personality and points them towards satisfying and meaningful careers. It’s a super fun episode that I think you will really enjoy!