Cheryl Broom [00:00:07]:
Hi, I'm Cheryl Broom, host of Higher Ed Conversations and CEO of GradComm. And today I
have a very special guest. And not only is she special because she's the executive assistant to
the superintendent and board of trustees for the San Marcos Unified School District, she's also,
because she is an AI expert and is my sister in law and shares my birthday.
Suzy B [00:00:32]:
Birthday, and is here, actually.
Cheryl Broom [00:00:37]:
In the office with me, which is the first time I've ever had a guest in person.
Suzy B [00:00:41]:
Oh, yeah.
Cheryl Broom [00:00:43]:
So you're our first in person guest.
Suzy B [00:00:44]:
I'll take all the firsts.
Cheryl Broom [00:00:46]:
Yeah. And for those of you that listen to this podcast on your phone and don't know, we actually
do record this and put it up on YouTube. So if you want to see the wonderful Suzy Boynton, you
can go to our YouTube channel and check out the podcast. So I invited Suzy on the podcast
because she has been speaking at conferences throughout California about how she uses AI
and has integrated it into her school district and is teaching people responsible and ethical ways
to use tools that are available. And I know in marketing, we are starting to explore the use of AI,
and a lot of the schools are kind of asking how and what and when they should be using it. So.
Yes, Susie here to talk all things AI. So welcome.
Suzy B [00:01:33]:
Yeah, thank you. Thank you for having me.
Cheryl Broom [00:01:35]:
So how did this interest in AI begin?
Suzy B [00:01:38]:
Okay, so I started to seek out professional development. There's not a lot of groups in the
executive assistant world that provide good professional development for our industry. And so I
found a group called the, it's called ASAP, which is very easy to remember. And it's the
American Society of Administrative Professionals. And although that's not tailored to k twelve
school districts like what I work in, I decided that there's a need for professional development for
myself to get better at my job. And because there's a lack of that professional development outthere in the world, I just went with this group. And so I went to their conference, and there was a
bunch of vendors at this conference that were demoing platforms, specifically calendaring
platform platforms for executive assistants. And so what I did at that conference, I ended up
sitting in most, almost every single demo that they offered in AI, and I started having these light
bulb moments go off.
Suzy B [00:02:52]:
And so at one of them. At one of them that was the company is called Eabuddy, and it's a
calendaring platform that helps you streamline your daily calendaring. We do a lot of that as an
executive assistant and in general across all industries. But she showed me how I could save
basically five minutes on one task and the way my brain works because I'm an, I was an
accounting major. I started going, wait a minute, let me quantify that across my entire
organization. And what does that mean? And so that afternoon I went back to my hotel after the
conference that day, and I was like, wow, that equates to, if I save everybody in my district, five
minutes, that equates to 250 hours. And that's only on one task. And so I started to think about
that on a grander scale and what, what an organization could do with that kind of time and the
changes that they could make when people got that kind of time back.
Suzy B [00:04:00]:
And what would that mean to each one individually? And so that sparked this intense interest in
AI, just in its efficiency capabilities, but also what it means to business in general for school
districts and all industries, pretty much.
Cheryl Broom [00:04:19]:
I love that you saw the potential of AI rather than thinking, oh my God, this is going to take my
job.
Suzy B [00:04:26]:
Yes.
Cheryl Broom [00:04:27]:
Like, did you ever have, as you like, dove more into all the tools out there? Have you ever
become afraid that you're going to be obsolete or we're going to be obsolete or you think it's
going to improve things?
Suzy B [00:04:39]:
That's a really good one. I mean, I think I had 1 minute where I felt like that. I was like, uh oh.
But the reality is, the more I started investigating and reading articles and like fine tuning my
knowledge in AI, I started realizing it's the next industry, right? So I don't need to be scared of it,
but what I need to do is upskill myself so that I'm relevant to my industry when we shift. And
there's a big shift across the world right now with AI, you know, and our jobs are changing and,
and our skill sets gonna have to change too. And so for me, I didn't see it as, I didn't see it as
scary. I saw it as like exciting, because I got, I get to think about my job in a new way and, and
then I get to explore learning. Like, I get to learn my job in a new way.Suzy B [00:05:38]:
And everybody will say this, you'll hear this. The more and more you talk about AI, people won't
be replaced by AI, but people who know AI will replace the people who don't know AI. And so
part of me just feeling that deeply said, okay, well, I'm not going to be left behind either. So let's
get on board and let's learn.
Cheryl Broom [00:06:01]:
That's great. And speaking of the calendar example, like, do you remember when before we use
like calendly or those AI tools, it'd be like 4000 emails trying to find the time to meet, like how
much time we wasted doing simple things that AI can now do for us.
Suzy B [00:06:18]:
Yeah. And so let's just take an example of just like one task. So as an executive assistant, I'm
constantly creating, you know, calendar events for the members of the public, city council with
my boss at the, at the school district. And so we're talking hundreds and hundreds of tasks,
right. And so there's no reason for me to manually look at a calendar for open space. AI can go
take that, can go do that for me and then I can use my time now thinking more strategically
about how I do my job so I don't need to be the eyes, the eyes looking at every single day for
the next month. If that's what my boss has asked me to do or if that's some what somebody is
requesting, I let AI go take care of that and bring me back options and then I can decide what to
do with them.
Cheryl Broom [00:07:16]:
Right? Right. Oh my gosh. I just had a flashback of working on the college campus and I would
have to be the one, like if the general public wanted to rent the gym or like they wanted to rent
the theater, I would have to like call all across campus to see the dates. And oh my gosh, the
fact that you could just like tell the AI or the computer like what's available and how that's such a
time saver.
Suzy B [00:07:39]:
It's a huge time saver. And I, you know, I do look at it through a lens of efficiency, but also I had
this conversation earlier today with somebody in that, like, by getting that time back, like, what
does that mean? And really what I think it means is we get to do the human parts. So prior to
this, we've all been really, and at least in education, I feel we're asked to do more with less
resources. And so we are bogged with day to day tasks and things like this that can be
automated with AI. So what I see the opportunity, where I see the opportunity is that I get to put
a human touch to my job more than I did before because I get to scale back all those menial
tasks and now I get to add value in my unique human way. So in my Susie way, I get to add
something to my job and to my role.
Cheryl Broom [00:08:38]:
And that's something that really stuck out for me when I saw your presentation was this
philosophy that AI is going to save us time and what do we do with that time. And that's thequestion that organizations need to be asking, is we're going to give people tools to do their job
better, to take away menial tasks, and in return, what are we going to ask them to do? And I
loved your philosophy that this gives us the opportunity to be more, to be better critical thinkers,
to be better colleagues, to ask better questions, to serve people better. So it gives us the
opportunity to really be better. Yeah.
Suzy B [00:09:17]:
Yeah. And like, I feel that AI is allowing us to be critical thinkers and creative thinkers. Right. So
again, we were kind of more the doers before, and now I feel like we're getting to scale out and
scale up and kind of spend that time that we were previously spending on being the doers and
putting 02:00 on the calendar or 04:00 on the calendar. And now we get to think about our role
strategically. So for me, what does that look like? How do I help my organization achieve its
goals? And from the lens of what an employer is going to do with that, do they want to improve
company wellness? Do they want to improve company culture? Well, they have more time to do
those things now because the automated piece is given back. I'll just reference it's Grammarly.
Is one of their annual, or not annual reports, but one of their reports that they just released said
that knowledge workers can save 7.75 hours a week by using generative AI in their jobs.
Suzy B [00:10:25]:
Okay, that's a full day. What would you do? And so I asked some of my colleagues, some of the
other executive assistants here in north county, what would you do with that? And across the
board, everybody says four day workweek, but we're seeing that more and more and more. So
that could be something that actually contributes to wellness, if an employer's initiative is
wellness, because people want more time to themselves. So it just depends on what their goals
are, what their objectives are, and where they want to add value for their organization by saving
that time.
Cheryl Broom [00:11:01]:
Yeah, well, I just had this, like, like, diabolical thought. Like, save 7.5 hours a week. What would
I make my employees do?
Suzy B [00:11:09]:
Yes, but now I love it.
Cheryl Broom [00:11:11]:
Like, no, maybe I would actually move to a four day work week. Like, if you're not having to
spend all this time doing those things, like, why not use the rest of your time wisely and have
some more time for your family?
Suzy B [00:11:22]:
That's another reason why I started this. I was so compelled after seeing all these platforms that
I decided I needed to show internally the group of people with the similar job titles and roles like
me, I need to expose them to this because education can sometimes be a little slow on the
technology piece. And I just thought, hey, exposure is great. Let's just, let's start having theconversation. We might not be rolling out anything yet, but let's. Let's show people what it looks
like in action, right? There's no harm doing that. And what I got was all those same light bulbs
going off in the room like they did for me. When I saw that, when I talked to you about the
person that showed me my one task and how that kind of just snowballed, I see those light
bulbs go off for people, and that's like, right now what you just did.
Suzy B [00:12:20]:
That's why I love talking to people about it, because they have these light bulb moments. I call
them aha moments. And it's just so exciting to see that go off for people in different ways and,
like, how they can creatively think about what they. It's like this whole new world. We get to, like,
imagine all these new things about how we do our job, what we want to do with that extra time.
Are we gonna have a full day off? What does that mean for my family? Like, it has all these, like,
snowball effects. Really? And for me, that's really exciting.
Cheryl Broom [00:12:50]:
That is exciting.
Suzy B [00:12:51]:
Yeah.
Cheryl Broom [00:12:52]:
Well, I want. You've given us some really good examples about the ways that you've used AI.
And the presentation I saw you give had some great examples that I didn't even know existed.
So we're going to take a quick break, and when we come back, I want you to give us some
examples of your favorite uses so far.
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Cheryl Broom [00:14:04]:
Okay, we're back. Okay, so before the break, we were talking about light bulb moments, and I
had a light bulb moment. Like if I could save my team 7 hours, could we work to a four day
workweek? I'll see if anybody's listening. Anybody on my team's listening to the podcast,
mention it to me.
Suzy B [00:14:23]:Good one.
Cheryl Broom [00:14:24]:
And I wanted you to give us some more examples of things that you've used or you've seen that
saves that type of time.
Suzy B [00:14:31]:
Sure. I think a big one right now, which a lot of people are exposed to already, is Grammarly.
Grammarly has created AI platform. It's currently called Grammarly go, although a lot of things
are shifting, so the names change. But Grammarly has a version of their, of their platform that is
generative AI. And what it does is it, it helps you be the best communicator that you can. We
spend over 70% of our day communicating. Think about it.
Suzy B [00:15:06]:
We're emailing, we're writing. We're, we're, we're writing. If you're doing marketing, you're
writing maybe pitches for people you know. But nonetheless, what happens when our writing is
poor? We lose credibility. Right? And so on top of streamlining and creating efficiencies within
your writing and or improving your writing, you're also gaining more credibility because you don't
have all these grammatical errors. And so I find I use Grammarly go it. It has the capability to do
some of the things similar to chat GPT, where it can generate text for you, it can sync into word
into your email, which a lot of us just use for write spelling checks, but it's more robust than that.
And so that's a platform that I see.
Suzy B [00:15:58]:
If you're spending 70% of your time writing, I really see value in making sure that you're writing
as quality and that you also have the option to streamline that and edit it with AI instead of
yourself before you send it up.
Cheryl Broom [00:16:14]:
I actually use Grammarly and I consider myself an expert writer. And there's some things that it
catches daily where I'm like, oh, yeah, whoopsies. I use it in my emails and everything. So I
really like rambly a lot.
Suzy B [00:16:27]:
Yeah. And it gets you a fun little report. I don't know if you've, if you've looked at the report, it'll
say you, you've used. Let me think of what it just sent me to. You've used like 80% more unique
words than the average person today. So like I said, I'm a data nerd, so I'm like, oh, thank you.
It's like little compliments it gives to you for working with it. That's great.
Cheryl Broom [00:16:54]:
Oh, I'm going to have to check that out now. I like to be rewarded.
Suzy B [00:16:58]:
It's a reward system for sure.Cheryl Broom [00:17:01]:
I also saw in your presentation a PowerPoint generator that just blew my mind and I haven't
tried it yet. Yes, but I do so many presentations and I watched you build a PowerPoint live and
I'm like, what is that?
Suzy B [00:17:16]:
I will say that's my favorite AI tool right now. I still feel like it's going to be my favorite AI tool for a
while. The founder or creator grant created what I think is gold. So it's, so gamma has the ability
to help you present ideas beautifully, right? So what he told me when he was speaking to me
was people are more engaged when something is visually appealing and absolutely. I've gone
to a lot of conferences where I almost fall asleep the second, the PowerPoint, not PowerPoint,
but the bullet points come out, you know, and so the capability of gamma is that you can tell it
like generative AI, you can tell it a topic that you want to create a presentation on. And in about
less than 30 seconds it spits out a beautiful, basically PowerPoint for you. You can present
directly from Gamma with a live link or you can download it to PowerPoint if you like, or a PDF.
And it's got so many capabilities to pull in Giphys and to pull in things from the web and it's very
user friendly and so I just think it's gold.
Suzy B [00:18:34]:
And just recently they launched a website builder and it will build a website similarly. And I
haven't tested that yet because I don't have the need for a website. However, I can't imagine
being able to create a website in a short period of time. The unique thing from Gamma is that,
and where my brain went with this platform was I don't have to be a, I don't have to go take a
course to be an expert at PowerPoint to make it look visually appealing or, you know, like AI is
letting me present something and present an idea without having a graphic design background.
So while a lot of the times I don't even use the content, that spits out in gamma, but I use the
design factor and I would spend days probably trying to create a beautiful presentation. Now if
my boss asked me, hey, I have this presentation to here's my content, I can go build it within 30
seconds and then add his content later. But it's gorgeous.
Cheryl Broom [00:19:45]:
That's amazing.
Suzy B [00:19:45]:
Yes. Oh, I need to try this. Yes.
Cheryl Broom [00:19:49]:
I mean, and it's funny because people are like, oh, that's new. And it is new, but it's not new
because if you go into PowerPoint, they have this feature called design my slide. And I've never
thought that that is AI, so it's actually kind of buried. But if you do your own design and then you
hit this button, it gives you 20 other ways to lay it out. And I've always used that in button
compliments. And I think, I think the point I'm trying to make is we already have these tools.We've already been using a lot of these tools, and now they are becoming more and more
useful and more robust. So you go out there, people listen.
Cheryl Broom [00:20:27]:
Go out there and test them. Try them out.
Suzy B [00:20:29]:
Try. Yeah.
Cheryl Broom [00:20:30]:
So I need to try this one out.
Suzy B [00:20:31]:
Yes. So try, play with it. What, what? What do you have to lose? Yeah. You can scrap it. Like
throw it away. It took you 30 seconds. If you hate it, then move on. Right.
Suzy B [00:20:43]:
But my thing is, let's see how useful it is before we make judgment about it.
Cheryl Broom [00:20:52]:
And when it comes to things like PowerPoints, you're still presenting. And even if I use AI to
help me write, I'm still having to come up with the idea and edit because I'll tell you, if I have,
like, AI write something, they use the word bespoke, like constantly. I actually heard somebody
say the smoke on a Zoom call today.
Suzy B [00:21:11]:
Yeah.
Cheryl Broom [00:21:12]:
Like I'm like a live person and I was like, whoa. Like, I've never heard anybody use that word. I
actually wanted to ask him if he used like jet like it and it's very adjective heavy.
Suzy B [00:21:25]:
Yes.
Cheryl Broom [00:21:26]:
If write something and it's like, wow, it has a lot of like flowery language.
Suzy B [00:21:30]:
Yes.
Cheryl Broom [00:21:31]:
So I always will go in and edit it. So I'm not, I'm like you where these are great tools to help. I'm
not really afraid that it's going to replace marketing.Suzy B [00:21:40]:
Right.
Cheryl Broom [00:21:41]:
Because a human being still has to read it and understand it and test it and edit it. If you just
plop it in there and let it rip, it's not going.
Suzy B [00:21:52]:
To get the result you want. No. And, and so what I'm hearing more often is what they call human
in the loop. Right. There has to be a human in the loop when it comes to utilizing and creating
work with generative AI, right. You can't. I talk to the groups that I speak to. I tell them, listen,
you can't copy paste this and put it and send it out to people as though it's fact.
Suzy B [00:22:19]:
We have to remember back to our education, where they taught us to critically think. And there
are biases in AI. And so you have to be the human in the loop that can see those things and can
add your value to whatever you're working on, for sure.
Cheryl Broom [00:22:40]:
And it's interesting that you're, you love AI. You're speaking about it. You've given us some great
tips so far. And I find it interesting that you work for a school district because schools are
struggling with students abusing AI.
Suzy B [00:22:55]:
Yes.
Cheryl Broom [00:22:55]:
And in fact, my own son, who's 16 and he's in 10th grade, he said one of his friends is a great
student, straight A student, AP classes. The last kid you would ever think would cheat, got
pulled out of class last week and came back crying because the teacher ran his paper through
some checker. And guess what? He used AI to write his paper, right. And plagiarized.
Suzy B [00:23:19]:
Right.
Cheryl Broom [00:23:20]:
So he got an f, and everybody was shocked because no one ever thought that this would be the
kid that would use your eye. So, like, how do you balance, like, teaching kids responsible use of
these tools and not abusing them? Like, is your school district doing anything around that, or are
teachers starting to talk about it?
Suzy B [00:23:42]:Yeah, I think, I think that's another reason why I'm really passionate about talking about it. I feel
like in some ways, it's kind of like this unsaid. We're using it. Are we not using it? Everybody's
using it. And the sooner we talk about it, the sooner we can be the mentors to students about
responsible use. Right? So we're now in the age of AI literacy, but back in the seventies, they
were talking about digital literacy when computers just like, started becoming a big thing. Right?
And so back then they had to teach it. What is a computer? How do you log in? And then after a
while, it was like, oh, you can get all this information on the Internet or through books.
Suzy B [00:24:27]:
But what they had to do is they had to teach us. They had to teach us how to, for lack of better
words, right now, not plagiarize. Right? So it's something that we have to teach kids. But if we're
not AI literate, how are kids going to be AI literate? So that's another thing. Like, their school
districts are starting to create task force to start the discussion because you need guardrails,
you need responsible use parties for employees and, and students, and we need to start
showing kids how to use it responsibly. But what that, what that begins with is us knowing how
to use it responsibly too. And I think there's just a avoid of that right now. There's a void of that
information.
Suzy B [00:25:12]:
And so the more we talk about it, the more we learn, and we will get that foundational
knowledge like we did with computers in AI over time. But that's, we're the ones that are going
to help future generations know how to use it responsibly, just like we learned in high school and
college. This is how you cite sources responsibly when it's not your, it's not your thought, but
you can add thought to it. Right. So we have to do the same for students and AI.
Cheryl Broom [00:25:43]:
Now that's brilliant. That's this concept of AI literacy. Have you done, like, how are people, how
do you become literate? Like, what are you doing to help them?
Suzy B [00:25:52]:
Yeah.
Cheryl Broom [00:25:53]:
How can we take that concept and expand it?
Suzy B [00:25:56]:
Sure. I mean, I'm really still learning what that means. I read articles on it. It's really just getting
like a solid foundation of what AI is, what are its advantages, and also what are the ethical
implications that are out there, what are the biases? And then also, how do, how do we interact
with it?
Cheryl Broom [00:26:21]:
So this concept of AI literacy is great. So how, how are people, how can they become literate?
Like, what do you do to become AI literate?Suzy B [00:26:31]:
Right. So first, being invested, being invested in knowing more about AI other than its daily use,
what is it, where does it come from and how do I think critically about it? That's a good start. But
there's articles, there's more and more literature being written about AI literacy right now than
there ever was before, and it's grown exponentially since 2016. So doing more research
yourself on the key concepts and also knowing that it's just not, it's not an end all. Like, you
have to, you have to be able to look at it through a human lens and apply, like I keep saying,
critical thinking to it. But if we think about it, like, you could look at two pictures that look almost
exactly the same and one could be generated by AI and one not. And so we have to start being
able to use a different filter when we think about AI as well.
Cheryl Broom [00:27:38]:
So I think it's such a great point. People need to really consider, especially in higher ed,
because when something new comes along, there's usually like a small group of people that are
excited and then a big group of people that are like, nope.
Suzy B [00:27:54]:
Yes.
Cheryl Broom [00:27:55]:
Nope. And I think with AI, there's a lot of fear around it. So I've seen in talking to colleges, this
kind of like fear of embracing it and exploring it rather than looking at it through the lens of, we
need to become literate because it's here to stay and we need to understand how to use AI
responsibly and then teach our students how to use it responsibly.
Suzy B [00:28:21]:
Yeah.
Cheryl Broom [00:28:22]:
And just like my son, seeing, because I've caught him on chat GPT writing essays, and I'm like,
you're going to get caught and you're going to get in trouble. And he'll be like, oh, I'm only using
it for research. I'm like, is the word bespoke in here? But then he, after this happened, he was
like, oh my gosh, you're right. You do get caught. And he said, so my teacher talked to us about,
this is a research tool. This is not for you to write papers with. This is for you to get ideas from
that you go out and explore on your own. And so I think those are the conversations we need to
be having in schools.
Cheryl Broom [00:28:56]:
We don't want to raise a generation of kids that just write papers on chat, GTP or make photos
using AI. There has to be, like you said before, that human element to it.
Suzy B [00:29:09]:Yeah. And maybe so students will learn how to cite their sources and their source is going to be
their own prompt, right? So there's actually, there's a way to cite your prompting in your, like if
you're using chat GPT to create a paper. And those are things like we don't even know about
yet. So we're just figuring this out. So how would we expect them to know that yet? And
because it's so not talked about, right? Like our poor kids don't, don't know the boundaries.
They don't have guardrails. And so what we can do is teach them, like, like his teacher said, tell
them it's a tool and tell them it's like their thought partner. Like this is, I'm hoping this gets the,
you know, wheels spinning.
Suzy B [00:29:57]:
It gives you new creative thought. But also it's going to be, it's going to be great to see how
teachers could actually really embrace it themselves and start thinking creatively about how
they can let their students utilize AI because it's so powerful and it's not going away and how
they can shift and creatively find new ways to test students. Maybe a paper isn't going to test
the skills that, the skill set that we need now. Things have changed, right? So it's like this
beautiful start of this whole new world and how we see it. So it might not be a paper anymore,
but it might be, you know, presenting an idea and them having to do some sort of, like,
presentation to demonstrate that they know that the same information that they would have put
in a paper. Right. Because maybe the value of the paper isn't going to be as important in the
future. I don't know.
Suzy B [00:30:58]:
I don't know.
Cheryl Broom [00:30:59]:
That's a good point, though. That makes you really think. Like, it makes you think as a faculty
member, like, maybe you're right. Maybe the tools we use to test knowledge need to change to
really test knowledge. Yeah, that's a great thing to think about.
Suzy B [00:31:13]:
I talked to a friend of mine who teaches at a private, private christian college, and we went for a
walk and she said, I don't like it. I said, okay, let me listen to that. And for about, like, a mile and
a half, I listened to what she was saying, and I said, okay, well, I challenge you. Like, I. I'm going
to push back just a little bit here because I don't know how you get around just ignoring it.
Right? Like, how are they gonna. How are your students gonna be skilled for the future where
all the jobs are if you just pretend it doesn't exist? Right? Like, that's not gonna work. And so I
said, I challenge you to maybe come up with a creative way to test their knowledge that's, like,
unconventional.
Suzy B [00:31:59]:
And she. She paused and, like, thought about it for a little bit, and she's like, you know, maybe,
maybe, maybe I can do that. And so I just think it's going to be a big shift in how we think about
how we test the knowledge of our kids. Right. And that's going to take. That's going to take a
while. You don't turn a boat. You don't turn a boat instantly.Suzy B [00:32:20]:
The boat turns very slowly. And so I feel with education, that's how it's going to go. It's got to
turn very slowly. But I'm happy it's here. Right? So I'm happy we're having the conversations. Le
unified just started there. They've put out resolutions to, you know, with their board about the
use of AI and where they plan to go with it. And so once kind of the bigger districts start doing
that, the rest follow suit.
Suzy B [00:32:49]:
And it's so exciting to hear that they're all going to have task force, because what that means is
that we all get to, you know, share resources, too, and continue to grow and learn in our AI
literacy.
Cheryl Broom [00:33:01]:
Okay, well, it's been a fascinating conversation. I thank you. So much. You definitely given me
some light bulb moments. And for those who have made it to this point, we are now going to go
have some margaritas, which AI cannot make.
Suzy B [00:33:16]:
No.
Cheryl Broom [00:33:18]:
Maybe one day there'll be AI margaritas.
Suzy B [00:33:21]:
Yeah, you never know. It might be able to make it in a machine or something. You just tell it.
Come up with a new concoction with whatever you have in there.
Cheryl Broom [00:33:29]:
And so Susie speaks at a lot of K twelve conferences, and if anybody wants to get ahold of her,
she's on LinkedIn. Or you can always reach out to me as well. So thank you so much for your
time.
Suzy B [00:33:38]:
Yeah, thank you for having me. I appreciate it.
Cheryl Broom [00:33:47]:
And that wraps up this episode of the Higher Education Conversations podcast. I'm host and
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